Abortion and rape!

7 Jun

Before reading this post, bear this in mind; I’m not an extremist, I’m no super religious and I’m fully conscious of a woman’s civil right whether to give birth to a child or not. I’m just striving to find some sense behind all those arguments being put forward by the authorities to legalise abortion.

I was inspired by Aniisah’s post to write on abortion. Everyone has their own opinion on abortion. Some people contend that abortion is a right that should not be limited by governmental or religious authority and is the solution for rapes committed on women. They argue that pregnant women will resort to unsafe illegal abortions if there is no legal option. Others are against abortion featuring it as an immoral act and against some religious belief.

If in cases of danger to the pregnant woman or the child suffering from severe malformation, an abortion, in my opinion, is justified.

Now concerning rapes, I’d say: Damn the authority for not thinking about the other side of the story. If ‘killing‘ is being legalised as such, why not kill the ones who deserve it? Why not kill the rapists, why not kill those who commit immoral or incestuous acts? Why kill that little innocent life? 

By killing the unborn child, what is being achieved? Will the number of rapes decrease? Will abortion decrease the immoral acts committed by people? The answer is IT WON’T! Yes, maybe it will relieve the burden that some women have to carry. But will it relieve the burden of having been raped? If the authority is taking such a step, why not take the step to get rid of the root causes of the need for abortions? THE RAPISTS!

Yes, legalise abortion as a remedial action for anything bad which has been committed to a woman. BUT, legalise capital punishment or any other sort of very severe punishment, for those who commit such an act – to eliminate the source of the problem itself.  Being sentenced for some years for having committed a rape and enjoying a 3 star treatment in the cells is the result of a rape in Mauritius – I wonder if this compensates for killing an unborn child.

There are many things which I think should be considered before really legalising abortion:

–  Firstly, I believe that since conception does not occur immediately following intercourse, pregnancy can be eliminated in all rape cases if the rape victim receives immediate medical treatment by having all the male semen removed from her uterus;

–  Arguments about the raped women undergoing mental stresses. Abortion brings a trauma of its own – I believe that homicide of another is never justified to relieve one of emotional distress;

–  A child does not lose its right to life simply because its father or its mother was a sexual criminal or a deviant;

–  Professor Stephen Krason points out that…

“psychological studies have shown that, when given the proper support, most pregnant rape victims progressively change their attitudes about their unborn child from something repulsive to someone who is innocent and uniquely worthwhile.”

– If a woman doesn’t want the child, she always has the option to giving the baby for adoption;

– Legalising abortion will not eliminate the root causes of the problem in rape cases;

– Abortion for me is like justifying an immoral act (in cases of rapes)

Ultimately, I believe it remains the woman’s choice to decide whether or not to give birth to the child. It is her civil right – leave the right to the women to decide. The unwanted pregnancy flows biologically from the sexual act, but not morally from it.

“My biological father is a rapist. But I am still a human being and I still have value. My life isn’t worth any less than yours because of the way I was conceived. And I did not deserve the death penalty because of the crime of my father.” (Pam Stenzel, Straight talk from Pam Stenzel (1998) Vision Video Inc. PO Box 540, Worcester, Pennsylvania, 19490, USA)

I’m for legalising abortion for a pregnant ‘CHILD’ after a rape, but this law should be complemented with other severe law for eliminating the root cause, for eliminating the rapist – and I’d suggest capital punishment for rapists!

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17 Responses to “Abortion and rape!”

  1. MountainKing June 7, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    Not read it yet but holy shit, why stop at killing the foetus/unborn child? KILL THE F**KING RAPIST ALSO. NO HALF ASS MEASURES PLEASE.

    Ill read it a bit later 🙂

  2. Maliha Bhugalee June 7, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

    Lol! this is the point in the article 😉 Kill the rapist! Kill the root cause! Adopt capital punishment.

  3. Yashvin June 7, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    Okay, you kill the rapist and then what?
    Will you be the one to tell the child that he/she was born after a rape and that his father has been killed for this action? How will the child feel? How would you feel for a child who won”t ever see his rapist father?

    Once the bad deed has been done, its no use crying over spilled milk.
    btw, you have not talked about abortion for the other cases. What’s your position on them?

    My stand on the matter : http://www.yashvinblogs.com/ivg-avortement-abortion/

  4. aniisah June 7, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    Legalising abortion in cases of rape does not mean the woman HAS to do it. ‘Why kill that little innocent life?’ <– this remains the choice of the woman. My post refers mainly to that: atleast the choice is now being given to her in a legal context.
    and somehow, after this long debate on abortion, I see capital punishment also coming. In very specific cases. 😉

  5. Maliha Bhugalee June 7, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    Okay you abort the child and then what? The trauma of being raped and undergoing abortion will vanish? The rapist will be imprisoned for some years…AND WHAT?

    Another woman will be raped..another child will be aborted…and it goes on and on!!! Understand this issue from its root cause – not after the deed has been done! Eliminate the root cause. Which is why, i suggested capital punishment for rapists! As for other cases, such as malformation of the foetus, danger to the life of the mother or child, I’M FOR abortion – IF THE PREGNANT WOMAN IS WILLING TO DO SO!

  6. Maliha Bhugalee June 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    @Aniisah: I never said I was against abortion! Read the last part.

  7. MountainKing June 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm #

    @yashvin: You should improve your reading skills… I said “why stop at killing the foetus/unborn child? ” and “KILL THE F**KING RAPIST ALSO. NO HALF ASS MEASURES PLEASE.”.
    Thanks.

  8. Bil June 7, 2012 at 6:31 pm #

    Great post here! You did think outside the box – ‘eliminate the root cause’.

  9. Mohsen June 7, 2012 at 6:50 pm #

    Hmmm..I agree with Cheryl! xD

  10. aniisah June 7, 2012 at 7:20 pm #

    I did not say you are against either. You are looking at the cause of the problem and you are for giving harsher punishment (killing, if you prefer) to the criminal. I wish for the same thing too.
    “By killing the unborn child, what is being achieved? Will the number of rapes decrease? Will abortion decrease the immoral acts committed by people? The answer is IT WON’T!” <– I just do not agree with this. I cannot link abortion to the punishment deserved by the rapist. They are distinct topics for me.
    Setting capital punishment for a rapist will decrease the number of rapes? A criminal who is out to do commit his crime hardly takes the time to really think of the consequences. And like I have mentioned in the comments on my blog, many rape victims do not 'inform' the authorities or lodge complaints against their abuser. There are various reasons for this . One of which being their families prefer to 'deal' with the problem themselves and keep the whole thing quiet. So, in the end, the rapist might never be caught and judged in a court of law.

  11. Yashvin June 8, 2012 at 1:24 am #

    @MountainKing : Please spare me your comments. I was not talking to you!
    Kant 2 tourists kozer, marsand pistasse pas fou nenez!

  12. Pramod June 8, 2012 at 1:27 am #

    That’s my point too… Ok killing might not also be the solution… soooo why not castrating that rapist? 😀 I guess this will definitely make people with that rape intention to think at least 10 times before committing the crime. And I guess just like the women will live with that memory all her life, It will be fair enough for that rapist to live with that punishment all his life, therefore realising his mistake.

    If there are others who have such intentions seeing that person being punished I guess they will most probably give up the idea of ruining the life and happiness of another woman.

    La ena beaucoup bannes dimounes ki pou dire coumsa que c’est inhumain etc etc etc. But I still ask myself, so it is more human to kill a foetus who does not really deserve that rather than punishing a rapist who definitely deserves it?

    And many such arguments which state that it is a foetus that is being aborted and not the baby… remember, those who are human today were foetuses once. 🙂

    Nice post Maliha.

  13. Junaid Hajee Abdoula June 8, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    I do not see how aniisah can’t link these two. 😉 Lack of proper judgement maybe!

    The threat of punishment itself counters the benefits or pleasures that the criminal would receive from the crime. In addition, the punishment must be administered swiftly so that potential criminals will see a clear cause and- effect relationship between the crime and the punishment! Take Dubai as an example, men fear to even approach women because of the law over there.

    Great article and nice arguments Maliha 🙂

  14. aniisah June 9, 2012 at 6:38 pm #

    @Junaid: Yes I cannot link the two simply because I cannot see how the rapist cares about what happens to the woman he raped afterwards! You think he worries whether she will keep the baby if ever she is pregnant? You think he worries whether she will get over being abused and move on?
    Yes, he may start to worry about his punishment: IF he is caught and IF a complaint is made! So what happens to the rapist and what happens to the victim after the crime is committed are two distinct stories.
    My original post and my replies only focus on the woman, who is the victim. I do not know if you have met women who have been abused, and how the criminals have yet to be caught and judged. So somehow, it does not matter how severe the law is. If a rape happened, and the criminal is still at large, nothing will change the fact that a woman has been raped and she has to deal with that.
    If we have to compare with other countries, why not try to compare to some European countries and the great USA? The law is just as severe there! Have that decreased the number of women who are abused in those countries? Dubai applies mostly sharia laws. No wonder the men are scared! 😛 the level of crime is low, I agree, but it is not nonexistent. Rape and crime still occur.
    But We are in Mauritius! and I’d rather not compare to any other country. We have different cultures and the mindset of the people is very different. I am all for enforcing the law where crimes like rapes are concerned. But I certainly do not condemn the woman who chooses to abort a child resulting from rape.

    That said, I wonder why some people cannot express their opinions about a topic without insulting other people’s intelligence! It ruins the whole discussion/debate.

  15. Junaid Hajee Abdoula June 13, 2012 at 6:53 am #

    @Aniisah: Don’t argue just for the sake of arguing and compare likes with likes. I do appreciate some of your points though.

    I hope your intelligence was not too much insulted 😉 Cheers

  16. Dario May 18, 2013 at 3:42 pm #

    Finally something I can disagree with 🙂 Actually, I agree about us having to go to the “root cause”, but I don’t believe that “killing the rapist” will eliminate the problem. The root cause is deeper than that. It’s our fears, our attitude to sex, our approach to education and sexuality. These are the root causes. Self-love, and a radical change in how we educate our kids and teach them about the sanctity of sexual intercourse are what will be needed to change the “root causes” of not just rape, but every other social ill… 🙂

  17. Maliha Bhugalee May 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm #

    I was simply contrasting between either killing the child or the rapist. Who deserved more to live? I’m not saying that killing the rapist will eliminate the problem here, dear sir. 😉

    I totally agree with the rest. It all ends in one thing..educating our children 🙂

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